| El Nino..good practice! |
| * Hello everyone, I have a feeling that this winter may be an... | Lilly | 10/17/97 | ||
| * el nino | libby spieth | 10/25/97 | ||
| * Cloth bucket | Arthur Welling | 10/25/97 | ||
| * 6" well alternatives | Ken Seger | 10/25/97 | ||
| * you are all missing one thing , that is you have to get the ... | del cool | 10/25/97 | ||
| * you are all missing one thing , that is you have to get the ... | del cool | 10/25/97 | ||
Date:
October 17, 1997 05:35 PM
Author: Lilly
(lillyroberts@usa.net)
Hello everyone, I have a feeling that this winter may be an opportunity for most of us to get in some much needed practice. Many are predicting a very harsh winter, where the phrase "bitter cold" will be used a lot. I for one am expecting ice storms in my area. This may be an experience in lack of electricity, forced upon me by nature!. Well, might as look on the bright side and know that I am going to get a chance to see how some of my plans will work out. Please, we must all remember that we can live longer with no food then water. Our water supply should be top of the list. I have am old hand pump on top of a drilled well. The water pump runs on electric. Should I expect this to work without electric? Hope so! Thanks
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Date:
October 25, 1997 01:22 AM
Author: libby spieth
(cowboyland@aol.com)
Subject: el nino
lilly
in regards to the handpump on the well...have you any idea how deep a well a handpump can accomodate? our well is 320 ft. deep. my husband does not believe that a handpump could bring water up from that depth. he is suggesting a can on a rope. the opening being approx. 6" in diameter. what do you think?
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Date:
October 25, 1997 07:43 AM
Author: Arthur Welling
(artw@lancnews.infi.net)
Subject: Cloth bucket
Howdy Libby,
In the Lehmans catalog they have a special canvas bucket made to haul water from a narrow well casing. It's not too big around but very long. I believe it holds 3-4 gallons. As a fellow DEEP well owner I plan on buying several soon. Along with four/five spare ropes.
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Date:
October 25, 1997 09:27 AM
Author: Ken Seger
(kenseger@hotmail.com)
Subject: 6" well alternatives
I don't know what the price of the item in the Lehman's catalog is but you can fabricate a "super bucket" fairly easily from plastic or metal.
Take a piece of pipe slightly smaller in diameter, 5" in your case. Since it won't have huge pressure on it you don't need anything heavy duty like schedule 40, runoff pipe would be fine. Weld a plate on the bottem, put a large hole in center on the bottem, making sure that the inside of the plate remains smooth as this is the stationary half of the valve. For the other movable half of the valve a heavy metal plate with rubber gasket material glued on the bottem. Note - plate either has to have enough clearance to allow water past, or better idea, perforate perimeter of movable plate. Idea is pipe goes down well, water goes through hole (pushing plate up to allow it), water stops flowing in, metal plate goes down seals holes, you pull up pipe with water in it.
Details - you either need to put cross pieces to prevent the movable plate from rotating 180 degrees or countersink 2 or 3 guide rods that will keep the plate flat. Combine with a good tripod and pulley and you are in business. As water weighs 8.333 pounds per gallon, a cubic foot of water (1,728 cubic inches) weighs 62.5 pounds. Therefore you don't want to make the pipe soooo long you can't lift it easily when full. This makes a good arguement for thin wall plastic rather that cannon barrel grade metal pipe, you want the water, not the exercise. The math is weight of water = pipe length in feet X pipe diameter in inches squared X 0.34
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Date:
October 25, 1997 01:56 PM
Author: del cool
(cooldel@usa.net)
you are all missing one thing , that is you have to get the pump and pipe out of the well casing first.
just a couple of notes a lift pump will only work to a depth of 28 ft any deeper than that and you need to push the water up from the bottom thru a series of check valves.I belive that there are some windmills that will do this but I would look for one now not when you really need it I think it would make more sence (?) to concentrate on some type of generating system and a storage tank,pump the water into a large tank every few days and practice water conservation. Added benefit if you did this at night would be electricity for lights,etc.
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Date:
October 25, 1997 01:57 PM
Author: del cool
(cooldel@usa.net)
you are all missing one thing , that is you have to get the pump and pipe out of the well casing first.
just a couple of notes a lift pump will only work to a depth of 28 ft any deeper than that and you need to push the water up from the bottom thru a series of check valves.I belive that there are some windmills that will do this but I would look for one now not when you really need it I think it would make more sence (?) to concentrate on some type of generating system and a storage tank,pump the water into a large tank every few days and practice water conservation. Added benefit if you did this at night would be electricity for lights,etc.
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