Date: January 24, 1998 01:50 AM
Author: Noah Smith (noahsmith@usa.net)
Subject: Killing Wheat Larvae

I was reading about wheat storage in food grade buckets. The author said even in food grade buckets it is wise to line it with a paper bag to prevent any leaching.

After using duct tape around the lid to ensure it is as bug-proof as possible, she puts her buckets into the freezer at 0 degrees for 4-12 days. This supposedly kills any larvae and insect eggs.

Does this sound like over kill or is this really necessary? Can't I just put my wheat into my food grade bucket and be done with it?

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Date: January 24, 1998 01:22 PM
Author: Ken Seger (Kenseger@primary.net)
Subject: Killing insects and their larvae


Yes you can just dump your wheat into buckets and not worry about insects - just be sure to stock plenty of oil so that you can fry up the insects and the grubs when you open the container up again. While you do lose some calories eating fried bugs and grubs, the protein is animal protein and therefore more complete.

Of course if you were planing to plant that wheat you might consider treating it. I've never used the freezing system. The diatomaceous earth method is what I've had the most exeriance with. Packing in an oxygen starved container can be done by buying a small tank of CO2 or nitrogen, make sure your feeder tube reaches all the way to the bottem. Puting in a piece of dry ice will work, the cold CO2 will displace the regular air, allow just enough loseness on the seal while the dry ice sublimes.

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Date: January 25, 1998 12:42 AM
Author: Noah Smith (noahsmith@usa.net)
Subject: Dont Wanna Eat Bugs!


Are you saying that if I just put wheat in food containers with no dry ice, Walton packets, freezing, nitrogen etc, that I WILL get bugs?

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Date: January 25, 1998 08:37 AM
Author: Ken Seger (Kenseger@primary.net)
Subject: Wheat and bugs


The bug larvae get harvested with the wheat. It is possible that you could find some larvae-free wheat, I have heard that there is a treatment that uses high voltage discharge to kill the larvae.

Question is: you want to bet your life on it?

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Date: January 27, 1998 05:06 PM
Author: M Zanone (zanoneclan@sprintmail.com)
Subject: Bugs in Opened Buckets


I'm confused. I ordered the nitrogen packed pails for my long term wheat storage. However, do the buckets that I have open need to be treated in any way for bugs? (I ordered 1 bag each of oats, beans, wheat, etc. to place in my own buckets and to use in the short term.)

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Date: January 27, 1998 05:40 PM
Author: Will_richards (Will_richards@hotmail.com)


That depends on how fast you eat it. If you are getting bugs in you open containers, you should probalby go to # 10 cans on the next order.

I would also mention that bugs don't hurt you. If there are not lots grind em up.

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Date: January 30, 1998 07:24 PM
Author: Dr. Gene (carvgene@eci.com)
Subject: Open buckets


1/30 We use wheat out of our buckets all the time to grind for bread. I open a 5 gallon pail about once every 4-6 months, and have never found a problem with bugs after it is opened as I assume that the bad stuff was killed during the long storage period. I think humidity and heat are the main problems. I think if you practice good sanitation so that you don't place stuff in suspect containers you will be ok. Good luck and God bless, Dr. Gene

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Date: January 24, 1998 04:35 PM
Author: Ann Gersdorf (anng@dmv.com)
Subject: Killing wheat larve


Walton Feed sell oxygen absorber packets. You put a couple in the bucket and then seal it. This kills any insects that are in the grain when you buy it and prevents any from getting in from the outside.

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Date: January 25, 1998 06:39 PM
Author: UrthMomma (UrthMomma@aol.com)
Subject: Wheat storage -- Wrigley's to the rescue


I can't vouch for this technique, but part of the Mormon food storage folk lore is that you toss a couple of sticks of spearmint gum in a bucket of wheat before you seal it.

Greatgrandma always use to stick several bay leaves in the flour canister, also.

Blessings,

Urth

"Madness takes its toll -- please have exact change."

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