| purchasing/packaging food for storage |
| * purchasing/packaging food | Lynn | 10/25/97 | ||||
| * change | Lynn | 10/25/97 | ||||
| * purchasing/packaging food | Lynn | 10/25/97 | ||||
| * LDS Cannery | David B | 11/22/97 | ||||
| * 'Stake President'can help you.... | will | 11/22/97 | ||||
| * How do rolled oats keep? | Dr Gene | 11/25/97 | ||||
| * Storage life of rolled oats. | Al Durtschi | 11/26/97 | ||||
| * rolled oats | Lynn | 11/26/97 | ||||
| * Really off topic, but... | Al Durtschi | 11/28/97 | ||||
| * How'd ya do it? | Calvinist 17 | 01/24/98 | ||||
| * Putting your food by using dry ice. | Al Durtschi | 01/26/98 | ||||
| * O2 absorbers | Will_richards | 01/26/98 | ||||
| * LDS CANNERIES: cheap, easy food storage | baily | 11/19/97 | ||||
| * Steel 55 gall. drums | KS | 11/20/97 | ||||
| * 55 gal drums | Lynn | 11/24/97 | ||||
Date:
October 25, 1997 01:39 AM
Author: Lynn
(hope1@breeze.net)
Subject: purchasing/packaging food
Hello all, will post here and I hope this is valid for you all. I recieved email about nonmembers purchasing food storage from the Church Of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints 'bishops storehouses' (canneries).
I was converted many years ago and I am a participating Latter Day Saint, and I guess that is why someone asked me some questons about this. I was in our local cannery today, so I put these questions to the storehouse manager. So here goes my interpretation of what he said. One question was, "can people who are not members of the church use these storehouses" the answer is yes. You might be interested to know that our leadership has recently contacted the managers of these storehouses and specifically requested them to make these facilities available for non members.
Another question was "will my name be used for proselyting or given to others", that question was answered this way , "I don't even ASK if a person is a member of the church when they come in to use the facilites". I noticed when I purchased somethings today, my name was nowhere on any paper work. If your name is on your reciept it is there for your benefit only.
Only stipulation that was mentioned; this food purchased is NOT TO BE RESOLD. This is a non-profit facility, it is illegal to be used for profit, by anyone.
When our leadership advises us, he is not only advising the people in the church, he is advising the people of the world, that everyone would recieve blessings. Anyone who hopes to be blessed would be well to follow their advise.
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Date:
October 25, 1997 01:45 AM
Author: Lynn
(hope1@breeze.net)
Subject: change
You will noticed I changed my post...we are also admonished to store a years supply of necessities; clothing, firewood, medical etc, so we are right on target here aren't we !
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Date:
October 25, 1997 01:40 AM
Author: Lynn
(hope1@breeze.net)
Subject: purchasing/packaging food
Hello all, will post here and I hope this is valid for you all. I recieved email about nonmembers purchasing food storage from the Church Of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints 'bishops storehouses' (canneries).
I was converted many years ago and I am a participating Latter Day Saint, and I guess that is why someone asked me some questons about this. I was in our local cannery today, so I put these questions to the storehouse manager. So here goes my interpretation of what he said. One question was, "can people who are not members of the church use these storehouses" the answer is yes. You might be interested to know that our leadership has recently contacted the managers of these storehouses and specifically requested them to make these facilities available for non members.
Another question was "will my name be used for proselyting or given to others", that question was answered this way , "I don't even ASK if a person is a member of the church when they come in to use the facilites". I noticed when I purchased somethings today, my name was nowhere on any paper work. If your name is on your reciept it is there for your benefit only.
Only stipulation that was mentioned; this food purchased is NOT TO BE RESOLD. This is a non-profit facility, it is illegal to be used for profit, by anyone.
When our leadership advises us to store food and necessities, he is not only advising the people in the church, he is advising the people of the world, that everyone would recieve blessings. Anyone who hopes to be blessed would be well to follow their advise.
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Date:
November 22, 1997 10:10 AM
Author: David B
(db23@hotmail.com)
Subject: LDS Cannery
Lynn,
My telephone listings don't show a bishop's anything. They do list a 'Preventive Maintenance Group' and a 'Stake President'...would either of these have knowledge of whether there's a cannery in our area?
David B
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Date:
November 22, 1997 05:40 PM
Author: will
(will_richards@hotmail.com)
'Stake President'can help you.
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Date:
November 25, 1997 06:17 PM
Author: Dr Gene
(carvgene@eci.com)
Subject: How do rolled oats keep?
Hope that this is the right spot for this question. How long do you suppose rolled oats would keep. May oak meal and granola and add to breads etc. Actually prefer oats to corn. Could they be packaged in carbon dioxide? God bless, Dr. Gene
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Date:
November 26, 1997 02:03 PM
Author: Al Durtschi
(rcox@mail.lcc.whecn.edu)
Subject: Storage life of rolled oats.
Packed away in the absence of oxygen we feel you should be able to get 8 years if you store your oats at 70 degrees F or cooler. For a more indepth discussion see the Storage Life of Foods Page.
I've successfully packed rolled oats away using dry ice without any problems.
Al
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Date:
November 26, 1997 04:32 PM
Author: Lynn
(hope1@breeze.net)
Subject: rolled oats
i have just recently opened up a 5 gal steel can of rolled oats that were packed with dry ice about 20 yrs ago (late 70s) I thought for sure they were going to at least smell bad, rancid. they were perfectly fine. Not a bug in sight and they smelled and tasted really good. I have cooked hot oatmeal and granola with them, and not one problem. So I guess they are pretty indestructable.
Al, do you get LDS GEMS? It comes as an email over the internet, each day it's a different thought. Today there was a letter recieved from a issionary couple in the Phillapines. It was a wonderful THANKSGIVING REMINDER.
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Date:
November 28, 1997 12:11 PM
Author: Al Durtschi
(rcox@mail.lcc.whecn.edu)
Subject: Really off topic, but...
Lynn is refering to an extremely tightly moderated mailing list with only 2-3 posts per day. Usually the messages are uplifting and inspiring. LDS specific, many of the postings are about the pioneer times and getting through hard times.
If you wish to subscribe... Send E-mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the following command in the body: subscribe lds-gems your-email@address.com
Al
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Date:
January 24, 1998 08:51 PM
Author: Calvinist 17
(Leprechaunhill@Juno.com)
Subject: How'd ya do it?
I have heard about putting dry ice into plastic containers to drive out the oxygen. I understand that you wait until the "fog" from the dry ice creeps up over the sides and then cap and seal the plastic drum.
Is this the right way to do it? Will the dry ice create pressure in the drum and possibly explode it? If you could give me some general instructions, I would appreciate it. Also, where can I buy rolled oats in bulk inexpensively?
Thanks for the help.
Yours in Christ, The Calvinist
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Date:
January 26, 1998 11:22 AM
Author: Al Durtschi
(rcox@mail.lcc.whecn.edu)
Subject: Putting your food by using dry ice.
Let me give you two places where this information can be found:
http://waltonfeed.com/grain/faqs/ivb1.html This comes from Alan T. Hagan's Misc.Survivalism Food Storage FAQs.
http://waltonfeed.com/self/plan.html Look towards the middle of the page. This is really easy to do.
Al
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Date:
January 26, 1998 12:51 PM
Author: Will_richards
(Will_richards@hotmail.com)
Subject: O2 absorbers
Calvinist, I recommend you buy mylar bags and 02 absorbers from Waltons. They are easy to use and more sure. I have seen a few newbies mess up there storage using dry ice(moisture). I would also mention that if are adament about saving a little cash you should use nitrogen instead of dry ice. The success rate seems higher.
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Date:
November 19, 1997 11:16 PM
Author: baily
(nbaily@usa.net)
Subject: LDS CANNERIES: cheap, easy food storage
For your information LDS Cannaries are located in most major cities in the western USA and only in certain major cities west of the Rockies. Look in both the white and yellow pages under The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Bishops' Storehouse. Call the number and ask if they carry dry food for storing and if they have a dry pack canner. They usually have only certain days and times open for that.
An example of what is available: wheat, sugar, flour, rice, beans (3 kinds), potatoe pearls (they taste like REAL mashed potatoes - a must buy), oats, dry milk, hot cocoa, puddings, dry carrots, dry apples, fruit drink, corn (in some places), dry onions, etc.
You can can this food at the facility but must buy the #10 cans. Be sure to buy the boxes too. Makes it easier to transport.
I have canned 1000's of pounds of food from them this way. If you know any Mormons they can get lots of information for you on food storage, fuel storage, etc. Don't be afraid they'll convert you. This is not what it is about. The Mormon church is committed to helping all its neigbors be as prepared as they have asked their members to be.
Feel free to contact me with specific questions. I'll help you in whatever way I can.
Baily
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Date:
November 20, 1997 12:56 AM
Author: KS
Subject: Steel 55 gall. drums
I've recently come across some new steel drums that have gasketed lids w/bolted bans for an air tight seal. I thought about using a plastic drum liner & using them to store wheat, corn,ect. Besides the obvious possibility of rusting is there any other reason why a person shouldn't use them? I thought about painting some type of waterproofing material on them and possibly burying them in the yard. Any opinions?
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Date:
November 24, 1997 10:42 PM
Author: Lynn
(hope1@breeze.net)
Subject: 55 gal drums
I had some friends who raised 12 children. they used wheat to make all their bread and they used it out of 55 gal drums they had purchased. they kept the drums in the barn out of the weather. I would think you would use them for wheat easily, but NOT with anything to waterproof them, that would contaminat the wheat. Just have to keep them out of the moisture,w hich would also include in ground storage, too much moisture there. If you could get hold of some oxygen absorber packets, you could use them 1 to a square foot of air space, counting the whole of the intereior of the barrel. Then fill, and air lock you barrels. I would feel comfortable doing that myself, others may feel differently. But you must begin using that wheat when you open that 55 gal. Thats a lot of wheat, and it would get infested if it sat there open for a long time, useing it only occasionally.
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